Yasmin isn't compassionate, I remember when the NHS staff where protesting over the mandatory vaccination policy, she was calling for them to be fired. At that point I realised her claiming to be pro human rights was selective. Never mind that these people had been going into work everyday when there was no vaccinations regardless of risk to health, when others had been able to work from home.
Her bringing up Ben's skin colour is something I really hate, I have had this stunt pulled on me more than once, telling me that because I am non-white I should agree with them. I don't need to, I can form my own opinions. There have always been legal asylum mechanisms, she is acting like there aren't any. Traffickers are not humanitarians, they are criminals, but she turns a blind eye to this.
So agree with you that it is ridiculous for there to be a Them and Us on the basis of nothing but the amount of melanin in your skin. I have a friend whose parents are from the Caribbean, she was born here but she is kind of coffee coloured and straightens her hair and so she is often told by others with dark skin that she 'isn't really black' or doesn't qualify for something because she isn't 'black enough'! It upsets her even though she laughs it off.
I lost a lot of respect for Badenoch when she played the race card once - think it was last year sometime. Seriously? She is a supremely successful person - is it relevant to anything?
You are absolutely right, Pallavi - those two are racist and bigoted and certainly not patriotic to their country (or maybe they are, but it's not Britain).
I suppose it must feel dehumanising for your friend and that you’ve picked up on it, shows you pay attention.
I lost respect for Badenoch too. Work should speak above identity. Plus like you say Kemi is very successful and I think she needs to be more aware of her opportunity.
We speak the same language you and I, Bettina, I agree with you very much 👌👍👌
Surely the Refugee Convention was created to oblige us - rightly - to take in and give sanctuary to individuals or minorities who are in particular danger for particular reasons. It shouldn't apply to vast groups or entire populations fleeing war or civil breakdown who should be helped and protected in other ways. There are more such people in the world than the entire population of the UK or many European countries. It's not a matter of being humanitarian or not, it's simply impossible to do without the host country being destroyed.
This is true, the legal mechanisms exist for the explicit purpose of checking who is entering the country, controlling numbers etc. No country can sustain uncontrolled migration without the system collapsing. It is also exceptionally dangerous to not know who these people are, especially with the increasing number of terrorist incidents in Europe overall. Problem is politicians would rather keep their seats than address this.
Yes, to be judged as a token of something, rather than an individual, is upsetting. As I always say, unkindness often stems from jealousy and she is a very attractive woman. I think other women are trying to put her down.
She asks why don't you shoot them, that's what Saudi Arabia does. There have been reports including eye witness accounts from survivors of SA shooting migrants fleeing from Eritrea. Is it not racist for brown people to shoot black asylum seekers?
I was not aware of this, I thought she was using extreme hyperbole. Yes, of course that would be racist. I would never condone any one group slaughtering another, regardless of skin tone, race or religion.
That’s a separate issue not to be conflated with Ben’s proposals for those coming into Britain. Also the way Yasmin speaks is emotional and she does attack Ben at the end of the conversation. My point with this being she is not making rational arguments.
Yasmin isn't compassionate, I remember when the NHS staff where protesting over the mandatory vaccination policy, she was calling for them to be fired. At that point I realised her claiming to be pro human rights was selective. Never mind that these people had been going into work everyday when there was no vaccinations regardless of risk to health, when others had been able to work from home.
Her bringing up Ben's skin colour is something I really hate, I have had this stunt pulled on me more than once, telling me that because I am non-white I should agree with them. I don't need to, I can form my own opinions. There have always been legal asylum mechanisms, she is acting like there aren't any. Traffickers are not humanitarians, they are criminals, but she turns a blind eye to this.
Precisely. Many good points here. I am glad people see through b.s.
So agree with you that it is ridiculous for there to be a Them and Us on the basis of nothing but the amount of melanin in your skin. I have a friend whose parents are from the Caribbean, she was born here but she is kind of coffee coloured and straightens her hair and so she is often told by others with dark skin that she 'isn't really black' or doesn't qualify for something because she isn't 'black enough'! It upsets her even though she laughs it off.
I lost a lot of respect for Badenoch when she played the race card once - think it was last year sometime. Seriously? She is a supremely successful person - is it relevant to anything?
You are absolutely right, Pallavi - those two are racist and bigoted and certainly not patriotic to their country (or maybe they are, but it's not Britain).
I suppose it must feel dehumanising for your friend and that you’ve picked up on it, shows you pay attention.
I lost respect for Badenoch too. Work should speak above identity. Plus like you say Kemi is very successful and I think she needs to be more aware of her opportunity.
We speak the same language you and I, Bettina, I agree with you very much 👌👍👌
Surely the Refugee Convention was created to oblige us - rightly - to take in and give sanctuary to individuals or minorities who are in particular danger for particular reasons. It shouldn't apply to vast groups or entire populations fleeing war or civil breakdown who should be helped and protected in other ways. There are more such people in the world than the entire population of the UK or many European countries. It's not a matter of being humanitarian or not, it's simply impossible to do without the host country being destroyed.
Excellent point.
This is true, the legal mechanisms exist for the explicit purpose of checking who is entering the country, controlling numbers etc. No country can sustain uncontrolled migration without the system collapsing. It is also exceptionally dangerous to not know who these people are, especially with the increasing number of terrorist incidents in Europe overall. Problem is politicians would rather keep their seats than address this.
Yes, to be judged as a token of something, rather than an individual, is upsetting. As I always say, unkindness often stems from jealousy and she is a very attractive woman. I think other women are trying to put her down.
It makes for an alienating experience. It’s good your friend is not alone and has you.
Putting other women down is a trait I’ve observed also. The constant, unnecessary competitiveness and “banter” at someone else’s expense.
She asks why don't you shoot them, that's what Saudi Arabia does. There have been reports including eye witness accounts from survivors of SA shooting migrants fleeing from Eritrea. Is it not racist for brown people to shoot black asylum seekers?
I was not aware of this, I thought she was using extreme hyperbole. Yes, of course that would be racist. I would never condone any one group slaughtering another, regardless of skin tone, race or religion.
That’s a separate issue not to be conflated with Ben’s proposals for those coming into Britain. Also the way Yasmin speaks is emotional and she does attack Ben at the end of the conversation. My point with this being she is not making rational arguments.